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On the newest episode of Kramer’s Whine Down podcast, by which she was joined by her ex-husband, the previous couple — who share daughter Jolie, 8, and son Jace, 5, — revealed that the “solely factor” they “battle” about of their post-divorce relationship is Kramer sending Caussin baby help funds.

Kramer, 40, her husband, Allan Russell, and Caussin, 37, answered fan questions throughout the episode, with Kramer asking, per a fan, if her ex “dislike[s]” her mentioning that she pays him baby help.

Caussin laughed, earlier than getting critical as he admitted, “Yeah, after all. And that is a scorching button for us, and we all know that.”

“You hate it. I hate it,” he added, to which Kramer mentioned, “That is the one factor we actually, really battle about.”

“Sure, it truly is. That is the form of actually true, final remaining resentment,” he mentioned. “And Jana hasn’t made up that I get pleasure from receiving that, particularly with cash being a factor in our marriage and our historical past.”

Due to this, the previous soccer star admitted that the “very last thing” he desires is for his ex to assume he wants monetary help from her.

“So discovering my approach post-divorce, discovering my profession, discovering the factor the place I can present and do all of that stuff has taken a while,” Caussin mentioned, mentioning discovering his personal enterprise. “It is a battle as a result of I reinvest stuff that I make again into my enterprise with a purpose to make extra and construct and construct and construct.”

“Belief me, it is my aim … to point out up and have a paper from my lawyer signing over, ‘Hey, this isn’t your authorized obligation anymore,’” he added. “Like that’ll be essentially the most liberating second for me ever within the historical past of Mike and Jana due to our historical past and so no a part of me enjoys it.”

When Kramer requested her ex why he “hate[s]” having her pay him baby help, he continued his clarification, telling her, “I understand how a lot weight you might have with it, the way it impacts you. You maintain it in opposition to me and it creates this narrative that simply is not correct.”

“It is only a final remaining factor conflicting between us that also lingers from our previous. I need to have the ability to relinquish each of us, all of us, … from that,” Caussin mentioned.

“That is the final lingering factor between us and my very own pleasure and ego is destroyed [by] the truth that I’m able the place I must take it, to be fully susceptible,” he concluded. “It’s what it’s.”

Kramer and Caussin, who separated greater than as soon as throughout their six-year marriage, known as it quits in April 2021 after a slew of dishonest allegations, with the One Tree Hill alum accusing her ex of “inappropriate marital conduct, irreconcilable variations and adultery” in her divorce submitting. Their divorce was finalized in July 2021.

In line with E! Information, Kramer — who has custody of Jolie and Jace two-thirds of the time — provides her ex $3,200 per thirty days in baby help, and pays for the youngsters’s medical health insurance.

In the meantime, additionally throughout Caussin’s look on his ex-wife’s podcast, the previous NFL participant shared his ideas on the potential for his kids referring to Russell as “Dad.”

“That is a tricky one. They’ve by no means known as Allan ‘Dad’ at my home,” Caussin mentioned. “I am not going to sit down right here and inform them you possibly can’t name him what you wish to name him.”

“Which we additionally had a dialog about that too,” Kramer replied. “I three of us, bear in mind, once we had a dialog final 12 months once I was pregnant with Roman.”

“And we’re like, ‘We will not say what they will and might’t do. In the event that they wish to name him the Easter Bunny, they will name him the Easter Bunny. They’ll name him no matter he desires,’” she added. “I am not going to say it’s important to name him dad.”

Nonetheless, Caussin admitted that it might affect him.

“Nobody has to do any form of correcting. However that one stings essentially the most,” he mentioned. “If I have been to listen to it, or if the youngsters inform me, ‘Oh, Mother informed us to name him Dad.’ That might ship me.”

Russell, in the meantime, chimed in, claiming that the hypothetical state of affairs “would not occur,” particularly if Caussin was there.

Kramer added, “Yeah, I feel the one factor is, with now Roman, it’s extra like I nonetheless say Allan 90% of the time, however typically I will be like, ‘Go give this to Dad.’ As a result of it is Roman.”

Caussin mentioned he is “cool with” that, noting that he is “capable of separate myself to a level. However he admitted it is the “hardest factor” understanding that he is “lacking moments” along with his kids.

“It’s what it’s. Comes with the territory,” he mentioned.

In the end, Russell would not assume Kramer and Caussin’s children will ever check with him as “Dad” as a result of they’re “very clear who their dad is and who their stepdad is.”

“It isn’t like I have been with the youngsters since they have been 1 12 months outdated, 6 months outdated, the place it might be any completely different. Positive, typically it’d slip out of their mouth undoubtedly. I do not assume it’ll ever be a behavior,” he mentioned. “I do not assume they’re going to ever continuously name me ‘Dad.’ I feel they’re at an age the place…this has all form of occurred the place they’re at an age the place they’re sufficiently old.”

“Yeah, at this level they form of name you what they name you,” Caussin agreed, including, “However I defend that, it is like, a father or a dad is somebody who supplies, protects, takes care of a kid, whether or not organic or not. So, , you are still worthy of the title clearly. However yeah, the youngsters know.”